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Sometimes it is not "just as easy" to find a dog that's bred how you want that's "not cold."Originally Posted by FrostyPaws
For example, if Sorrells' Bull were still alive today (who was off of Klaus' Zeke bred to Bolio's sister--which is his own daughter), I would breed to Bull over most of the living "hot/game" males alive today, simply because IMO Klaus's Zeke was such a good dog.
I totally agree that if Sorrells' Bull had a living brother who was a helluva performer, and was demonstrably-game, that I would breed to the proven-game brother over the cold dog ... but if that cold dog is my only option I wouldn't hesitate. IMO, when there is a well-structured, super-bred individual dog ... that is inbred off of a critical animal, which is comprised of what I consider to be a vital gene pool to my line ... I would breed to such a dog in a heartbeat ... and then select those offspring from the resulting litter(s) whose character/genes I felt obtained in the way I wanted them to.
Jack
Edit: With that said, I personally have only bred to one cold dog in my life (Bolo), and I only did that as an experiment.
So if you only bred once to a cold dog as an experiment does that mean it didnt go the way you had hoped?
No, I did it to see what would happen.
There were some good dogs, and bad dogs, like in every other litter, LOL
Jack
Still kills me that I had the chance to breed to this dog's brother and didn't. A good shot of ZEKE in this one, plus a lot of other common blood. This is a case where the breeder's name matters very little, but the dogs were sure bred right.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...e&dog_id=32040
I hear you.
When I was a lot younger, I had the chance to breed to a lot of great dogs, but didn't, because of the "human names" on the pedigree ... they weren't "famous" (LOL) ... but the dogs sure were bred right.
As I put more years behind me, it turns out the "non-famous" names in the pedigrees were actually good dogman who kept a low profile, so basically I blew it
That is what the "If Only" chapter was for in my book "The Hollingsworth Dogs"
Jack
I agree totally! I wrote about this in my book, "Today's History Makers; Tomorrow's Legends", where I listed a couple cold bitches that produced remarkable animals (Garrett's IRENE, Garrett's RUBY & R.A. Fauls' BEE BEE). Most of their offspring became household names, that readily roll of the tongues of just about every serious competitor of the sport. But I also touched on my personal experience with a cold male (BLACKIE MOE), who was a full brother to Home Grown Knls' BIG AL 2xw-1xgl (lost game to Gambler's GR.CH. VIRGIL). To any event, BLACKIE MOE was a cold dog, but produced better than any single dog I have owned to this date. And the sad part of this story is, I never bred him to any of my own bitches; he was bred only 3 times, to bitches owned by a young guy who liked BLACKIE MOE's conformation & appearance. Those bitches he was bred to weren't match dogs that I can tell, but out of those litters came (1) 4xw CH., (2) 3xw CH.'s, (1) 2xw & (5) 1xw's. To be perfectly honest with you all, I wish I could go back in time, cause I would have bred BLACKIE MOE to at least a couple bitches of my own liking; instead, he was culled. He was a son of Crews' ROCKY x Crews' JAMIE.
It is simply a preference of what someone wants to use at their disposal. Some people would choose to breed to a cold dog, and some people would choose not to do so. Neither person is right or wrong as we can all point to examples of dogs that were/weren't cold that produced top quality dogs throughout time.
Its certainly not for me, if your breeding hunting dogs then why breed to a dog that shows no signs of being interested in hunting, whatever dog or bitch I use in my program needs to show me its a hunting dog because thats what Im trying to recreate. IMHO
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