I understand Burton is a man's man, but that doesn't mean he had the dog to beat Ch Robert T Jr. Further, The Old Man faced and beat as many or more legendary dogs (and dogmen) as has Burton, including beating Burton twiceOriginally Posted by No Quarter Kennel
Oh I know Jack, and by no means am I disputing anything. It's just I know Burton and you can bet the farm if he had one that he felt could go, he would've been all in, no doubt. He's had some in the same class ( I know - this is opinion), with Floyd and Pit General.
Great Dogmen with cornerstone, legendary dogs. Makes for all types of great stories.
And BTW - to beat Burton and the keeps he was known for is quite astonishing and that's not opinion.
The man I am referring to has owned and shown dogs that make Pit General seem pretty ordinary. He is the guy who went 2:48 witb Gr Ch Melonhead with 8xW Gr Ch Doolie ... he was part of the ATeam with Gr Ch Robert T 9xW as well as Gr Ch Tornado 10xW ... he went into Gr Ch Outlaw 7xW ... and went into Gr Ch Sandman 5xW, 5xBIS witb Gr Ch Zinc 9xW ... and has owned and been associated witb more Gr Champions than just about any "legend" in our sport ... and yet he has never turned in a single report since the 1960s.
When I asked him, "Why?", his response to me was, "Jack, I don't want the glory, I just want the money."
Jack
pretty lame answer.I just want the money
Speaking of which, why would you post something lame like that yourself? The man was a lifetime gambler, and bought 5 properties with his winnings, so he has a right to his own motives, I'd say
Jack i was expecting some beautiful moralistic end of that sentence but it just said money
For me its still priceless. Wouldnt mind losing 3000 if i take home the win in the end.
Nevermind. enough respect.
I hear you, and trust me, when it comes to quality dogs, The Old Man would spend it to get a quality dog (if he liked it) ... and he would bet heavy as they come on the dogs he believed in. We're talking about a guy who made his living playing cards, pool, etc. for $40K a game sometimes.
He did some things in dogs I didn't agree with, but he also had extremely high standards, and if he said a dog was "game," you could pretty much bet the farm the dog wouldn't quit on top
Remember, the fastest horses are the ones with the most money bet on them at the track. Sure the trainers, jockeys, breeders, etc. all love a good horse, but their expertise centers around the ability to bring home the $$$.
The Old Man didn't give a damn about his dogs "being in a magazine" ... he wanted to have his dogs being good enough to bring home piles of money against anyone, anywhere
Jack
Quite the dogman. I find his motive to be much more respectful than wanting his name in a magazine.
You all him old and he's been here since the glory days, I'm suspecting he's probably 70ish.
Cool stuff!
He was 75 when I moved out of one of his properties back in 2008, so he is 80 now ...
When I asked him, "Why?", his response to me was, "Jack, I don't want the glory, I just want the money."
I really liked this answer. It says an awful lot in just a few words. There are lots of people who have success with singular purpose. For lots it all about winning. For some the winnings are more more important than the win. Winnings being money and the win bringing notoriety. EWO
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