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Thread: Battle of the builds

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Jrbulldogs View Post
    sorry evo, fox will not only check your kidneys but he will check your throat very hard and had freak strength and speed as well, did not push like a dumby, he knew how to use angles as well, trust me he was not a one dimensional hound, he was very special, and he is producing his ass off.
    Smart dog is the best dog. Never like a one dimensional head dog or stifle dog but a dog that has patience. Head dog does have an advantage as his preference is usually the first spot available.

  2. #22
    Some very nice dogs posted. Missy is absolute perfection. So is Macho. I prefer an athletic built dog. Strong and solid built but not so heavy set that movement is hindered. Very few of those bully type dogs have good natural air, something that's very important for me. Now some dogs are exceptions and freak of natures. But the average athletic built dog will most of the time outlast the average thicker built dog, and in my experience they aren't that much weaker either. This dog is staying at my yard at the moment. I really like his built. Got serious air without lacking in strength.


    P.s I love to see those freaks of nature when all you can do is scratch your head thinking how the hell is that dog doing that.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Stoneline View Post

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    Nice, i heard this one was one of those exceptions. Built like a tank and still agile and good natural air.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Hand View Post
    Smart dog is the best dog. Never like a one dimensional head dog or stifle dog but a dog that has patience. Head dog does have an advantage as his preference is usually the first spot available.
    Head dog has the advantage for that reason and the fact that the other dog's head is where its weapons are.

    He who controls the head controls = how much he gets bit ...

    Meanwhile, he whose head is controlLED = he who is ineffective.

    The only other place you can bite, and not control the head, is deep in the throat.

    From a tactical standpoint, breeding for dogs that control the head = breeding dogs that control the deal.

    Jack

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by skipper View Post
    Some very nice dogs posted. Missy is absolute perfection. So is Macho. I prefer an athletic built dog. Strong and solid built but not so heavy set that movement is hindered. Very few of those bully type dogs have good natural air, something that's very important for me. Now some dogs are exceptions and freak of natures. But the average athletic built dog will most of the time outlast the average thicker built dog, and in my experience they aren't that much weaker either. This dog is staying at my yard at the moment. I really like his built. Got serious air without lacking in strength.
    P.s I love to see those freaks of nature when all you can do is scratch your head thinking how the hell is that dog doing that.
    Nice post, and thanks for the compliments. I wish I had Missy all over again. Her son Silverback was a pretty good-looking dog also. The only dog I have left, Amazon, is a granddaughter of 2 of my 3 best bitches, Missy and Jezebel (Jezebel herself being a daughter of Screamer). Amazon therefore has strong, matriarchal heritage ... and is not a bad-looking bitch either:


    She has kindof a longish look in some angles, with a "high back end" like Evo mentioned ... and yet the classic "square" look of a true Poncho dog (that I like to see) in others.

    Of key importance to me, structure-wise, is that Amazon also has a lonng, thick, powerful neck and heavy shoulders ... which are great for a head dog like she's born to be ... as well as for really rooting into the throat as I hope she turns out to be. A truly good head dog is STRONG and stops a dog in its tracks with its powerful head-hold ... and is hard to get to because of its long, thick, powerful neck ... itself anchored into a set of powerful shoulders.

    I've not touched Amazon yet, and she's coming up on 3 years old, and is entering the prime of her life.

    She certainly is bred to kick ass ... and she is also built to kick ass ... and I have little doubt she will ... if/when I ever decide to see for sure.

    Those are fairly old photos and she looks even more powerful now ...

    Jack

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    Head dog has the advantage for that reason and the fact that the other dog's head is where its weapons are.

    He who controls the head controls = how much he gets bit ...

    Meanwhile, he whose head is controlLED = he who is ineffective.

    The only other place you can bite, and not control the head, is deep in the throat.

    From a tactical standpoint, breeding for dogs that control the head = breeding dogs that control the deal.

    Jack

    And that's why I breed throat dogs that will go to the head as plan B. .

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by evolutionkennels View Post
    And that's why I breed throat dogs that will go to the head as plan B. .
    We do similar things, just in reverse: I breed dogs that latch onto the head and then, hopefully, shoot for the throat

    I prefer to try to establish control immediately, which almost invariably comes from a head-hold.

    To me, a head-hold is like the jab of a good boxer ... and going into the throat a right cross to finish.

    It is harder to land your right cross, if you've not first established control/range/timing with your left jab.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    We do similar things, just in reverse: I breed dogs that latch onto the head and then, hopefully, shoot for the throat

    I prefer to try to establish control immediately, which almost invariably comes from a head-hold.

    To me, a head-hold is like the jab of a good boxer ... and going into the throat a right cross to finish.

    It is harder to land your right cross, if you've not first established control/range/timing with your left jab.
    Yup.. Only defense to a great head dog is a throat dog, but a head with finish... Great mold

  9. #29
    Great topic...I've noticed my racier looking dogs have tremendous wind and athletic ability. My stout dogs have good wind with more power. My Bizzie gyp seems to have a well rounded blend of physic, strength, and wind. Would like to see if I can create dogs with the physical build, strength, and athleticism of Bizzie, with just a touch of more wind!!

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    We do similar things, just in reverse: I breed dogs that latch onto the head and then, hopefully, shoot for the throat

    I prefer to try to establish control immediately, which almost invariably comes from a head-hold.

    To me, a head-hold is like the jab of a good boxer ... and going into the throat a right cross to finish.

    It is harder to land your right cross, if you've not first established control/range/timing with your left jab.
    great post,let the jab tenderise the opponent and then go in for the finish.

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