Originally Posted by CA Jack
You don't have to beg to differ, it's okay to just differ
I am not talking "volume" of breedings made I am talking altitude of achievements ...
Ok Jack!
Well I knew you weren't speaking volume, and after I re-read what I posted I realize it sounded as though that's what I was saying.
There are many highly accomplished Jeep/Redboy crosses I will post them as I get time.
Do you also know that anyone can tell you how a dog is bred and not be true. Also in my part of the woods, it's hard to get anything without redboy. I have the old trim moody/wee hunt/honeybunch dogs from Irish Jerry and the supposedly jeep/rascal/no redboy dogs. They all have produced buckskin red nose dogs. Which is why I starting buying the tab/Amber stock which then led me to the paladin/Virgil stock. I can give you a black redboy dog and tell you it's Eli stock...
You're talking apples and oranges.
I am talking about the original Jeep/Rascal dogs and people who won with those dogs.
You're talking a later era, long after the Redboy crosses were made.
I realize some people claim dogs are bred differently, as long as you realize not everyone does.
Jack
True. The Mountain Man once said the only way to tell how a dog is bred is to win three or four and someone will always come out of the woodwork and know how he is 'really' bred. EWO
I won't deny there are many accomplished Jeep/Redboy crosses ... but I said winningEST (not just winning)
Well I knew you weren't speaking volume, and after I re-read what I posted I realize it sounded as though that's what I was saying.
There are many highly accomplished Jeep/Redboy crosses I will post them as I get time.
Here are three of Jeep/Rascal (Rascal/Honeybunch) dogs (no Redboy) I don't think any Jeep/Redboy/Rascal dogs will equal:
Gr Ch DaBeast (7xW, DOY)
Gr Ch Sampson (5xW, 5x BIS)
Mountain Man's Ch Homer (4xW)ROM
Two of which beat 2 Champions and a Grand Champion ... the other is the baddest dog Lester Hughes ever owned, him and Zebo, and he's been in the middle of all the Jeep-type mixes
Jack
Here are a few Jack, I think they compare pretty well with the addition of Redboy.
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=21651 Smokin Joe 8xw
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=9811 Tank 5xw
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=28565 Rambo 5xw
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=3464 Tramp 4xw
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=11104 Clyde 4xw
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=20564 Ernie 4xw
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=1360 Cobra 4xw
Jeep/Redboy/ and...
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=7498 Nine Mili 5xw DOY
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=23661 Willie Jr 5xw
I'm sure I missed several....
Redboy has and continues to produce his ass off and deserves recognition. I'm not a Redboy fan per say, but I just don't think a dog like him can be down played.
S_B
C'mon, The Bailey's Gr Ch Rambo is a joke.
If you're going to put The Bailey's GR CH Rambo, that's fishing
I don't know Smokin Joe 8xW ... who did he beat to be warrant him being compared with Gr Ch Da Beast and Gr Ch Sampson (both of whom faced the elite of the game)?
I don't think any of those dogs are at the level of the 3 dogs I put ... and there are more
Snakeman's Gr Ch Pedro (9xW, ROM)
Snakeman's Gr Ch Rush (5xW)
Johnson's Gr Ch Macho (5xW)
Smokin Joe is legit Jack. Rambo was found during my search hell take him out of the equation I'm ok with that.
And Pedro & Rush aren't "Jeep" bred nice try.
Just go ahead and add GR CH MACHO to my list, his momma is half REDBOY!!
Um, yes, he needs to come out.
I didn't say Smokin Joe wasn't legit ... I asked if he beat the level of dogs Da Beast and Sampson did (Champions/fellow Grand Champions)?
Just curious.
Um, Honeybunch was bred to Rascal's brother Oso Negro to get Pedro's mama ... making her Jeep's half-sister.And Pedro & Rush aren't "Jeep" bred nice try.
And he was bred back to Rascal to get Pedro.
That is 3/4 Rascal/Oso, 1/4 Honeybunch ... no Redboy.
LOLJust go ahead and add GR CH MACHO to my list, his momma is half REDBOY!!
Another thing about breeding dogs to remember, when dealing with cross-type dogs, is your first effort to inbreed might be disappointing ... but if you linebreed it back again, you get what you're hoping for
Jack, can you expand on this please?
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