Early Starter v Slow Starters

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Great post @ Milehighmisfit

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colors WAS a great movie!

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Jack, in Ed Faron's book Pinky describes looking at WSK Rapid Roy for an hour...it says the next morning he let him go again to prove to BLEEDWATER that Roy wasn't a cur...real crazy...and hooked him shortly thereafter....

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Jack, in Ed Faron's book Pinky describes looking at WSK Rapid Roy for an hour...it says the next morning he let him go again to prove to BLEEDWATER that Roy wasn't a cur...real crazy...and hooked him shortly thereafter....

Yep. He was the classic, "I must prove to all my peers that I would never own a cur," insecurity story.

None of what he did made Rapid Roy into a world-beater.
At the end of each test Rapid Roy was still just a game, tough, somewhat-above-average dog.
Testing dogs exceptionally-hard does not turn them into aces. It does not turn them into Champions.
If anything, testing a dog super-hard (or multiple times) reduces the chance that dog can win 3 or 5 by leaving too much in the gym.

As I have met and interacted with other dogmen over the years, it has been my universal observation that the guy who wants to prove to others that "his" dog is "not a cur" is always an insecure person (and, in turn, dog butcher).

The dog always pays the price for the man's weakness (or, in Pinky's case, the 5'6" guy trying to appear 6' tall to his peers )

Jack

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@ No Quarter.... "Too Ready" funny, but true!

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Well said Jack

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Dunno how its there. Here, you should be happy if U can roll into 2-3 dogs about the same size with honest people, regardless style.
Allot of times it dont even help. Dog gets owned on the head by a good head dog prospect, now ur dog knows what it is to be owned on the head. lol. Also some dogs will never change style. Not to many real intelligent dogs out there. Other side, i have seen dogs on first roll fight like a fully "schooled" dog, mixing it up and adjusting to different situations. They just have it in them.

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Well those are two different subjects: schooling properly versus the ability (resources) to school properly.

Like I said, most people roll a dog 1-2x, then match. But they are hardly matching "schooled dogs."

I agree with the fact there are "naturals" ... dogs that seem to be an ace on their first rolls.

So too, there are dumb dogs that can never improve.

However, there is also a middle ground (where most dogs fall in), which are dogs that progressively get better, and develop their styles, as they get exposed to different styles.

Poncho was a front leg/chest dog when I first rolled him ... but by his 4th roll he was on the head.

Jack

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Well those are two different subjects: schooling properly versus the ability (resources) to school properly.

Like I said, most people roll a dog 1-2x, then match. But they are hardly matching "schooled dogs."

I agree with the fact there are "naturals" ... dogs that seem to be an ace on their first rolls.

So too, there are dumb dogs that can never improve.

However, there is also a middle ground (where most dogs fall in), which are dogs that progressively get better, and develop their styles, as they get exposed to different styles.

Poncho was a front leg/chest dog when I first rolled him ... but by his 4th roll he was on the head.

Jack

Is there any correlation between slow or late starters and intelligence?