Redboy / jocko has made more dead game dogs !

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Ca jack if you look back in the ped of the redboy / jocko you will see the same dogs as in tornado .

We must be from different planets then

Tornado is no more closely related to the RBJ dogs than I am related to your sister.
They're both pit bulls (and we're both Caucasian human beings), and that's about it

The simple proof is to run a 10-generation pedigree search on Yellow bred to Tornado, and you don't even get 2 tenths of 1%

So I don't know how you came up with the idea that Tornado has anything to do with RBJ dogs ... but she sure isn't even remotely related.

Jack

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We have to A.I. 90% of our dogs !high prey drive ?a hog can run a tusk from one side to the next break their jaw !it don't bother them at all as far as they know they are still going to eat the hog .that is what I like about the redboy / jocko all around dog on average .

A dog having "prey drive" is great ... and I love a cannibal also.

Not saying RBJ dogs don't produce these traits; I am sure they do.

I am saying that they sure don't produce "all the good ones" (like you said); it's not even close.
They are also not on the top list of "awesome, brutal killers" either.

Hell, Silverback was a stone-killer, but that doesn't mean he actually went out there and topped Molly B's record. Big difference.

No one is questioning that the RBJ GOOD (some GREAT) ... but saying they make up "all" the good ones ... or that they've killed more dogs than ALL the other strains is about as far from reality as saying Tornado was a RBJ dog

The fact is they get killed and beaten by many of the other bloodlines too.

Jack

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U know those Hollingsworth hounds look alot like redboy hounds.

They do have a similarity, at first blush, true.

But, having put my hands on both, the Hollingsworth dogs were more muscular, and had a greater density and strength to them.

This is why, bred pure, they could actually go 2 hours with some of the baddest match dogs alive, while not many pure RB dogs can do that.

Jack

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We must be from different planets then

Tornado is no more closely related to the RBJ dogs than I am related to your sister.
They're both pit bulls (and we're both Caucasian human beings), and that's about it

The simple proof is to run a 10-generation pedigree search on Yellow bred to Tornado, and you don't even get 2 tenths of 1%

So I don't know how you came up with the idea that Tornado has anything to do with RBJ dogs ... but she sure isn't even remotely related.

Jack

how I came up with it ,I looked at both dogs Peds ,both go back to laposy and teals sarge ,don't know what planet you come from if you don't see that!,just like jocko goes back to Tudors Dibo.

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Well, all I can tell you is no pedigree program on earth, nor any knowledgeable dogman I know, would call those two dogs "related" ...

There are 2046 dogs in a 10-gen pedigree, so (sorry) if Teal's Sarge is in there 7-gen back a couple times it means nothing.

Calling the dogs "related" would be the text book definition of a "stretch" ...

[waccamaw]

Any way you want to twist it jack ,they both go back to laposy and jocko goes back to dibo.

[waccamaw]

With bulldogs you got to know where you came from to know where you gonna go or else you just gonna get lost

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Actually, it's any way you want to misunderstand it.
Because if anyone is doing some twisting it's you.

Bolio dogs go back to Dibo at some point.
So do Eli dogs.
So do a lot of other dogs.
It does NOT mean they're the same bloodline or even remotely related.
Relatedness depends on QUANTITY of dogs and/or their POSITION within the pedigree.
And there are almost ZERO dog in common in the two dogs' peds. Literally almost zero.
And their position in relation to their pedigrees is absolutely meaningless.

There isn't a single common dog anywhere in a 6-generation pedigree.
There isn't a single common dog anywhere in a 7-generation pedigree.
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""""8-generation pedigree. Not one.

Again, we should simply agree to disagree.

In your eyes, I am wrong, I am "twisting things," the pedigree coefficient is wrong, etc.
In my eyes, you simply don't know what you're talking about if you think Tornado has anything whatsoever to do with RBJ dogs.

So we can just leave it like that.

Jack

[waccamaw]

Actually, it's any way you want to misunderstand it.
Because if anyone is doing some twisting it's you.

Bolio dogs go back to Dibo at some point.
So do Eli dogs.
So do a lot of other dogs.
It does NOT mean they're the same bloodline or even remotely related.
Relatedness depends on QUANTITY of dogs and/or their POSITION within the pedigree.
And there are almost ZERO dog in common in the two dogs' peds. Literally almost zero.
And their position in relation to their pedigrees is absolutely meaningless.

There isn't a single common dog anywhere in a 6-generation pedigree.
There isn't a single common dog anywhere in a 7-generation pedigree.
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""""8-generation pedigree. Not one.

Again, we should simply agree to disagree.

In your eyes, I am wrong, I am "twisting things," the pedigree coefficient is wrong, etc.
In my eyes, you simply don't know what you're talking about if you think Tornado has anything whatsoever to do with RBJ dogs.

So we can just leave it like that.

Jack

Anyway you want to say it jack they both go back to laposy ,just like jocko goes back to dibo.and I never said tornado had anything to do with RBJ ,I said they go back to the same dogs .meaning if tornado had it they could and many do have as well .

[waccamaw]

I know those Hollingsworth dogs aren't what you say they are and they never were !! The best Hollingsworth dogs came when the old man bred to yellow ,just like the best mayday dogs came when bred back to RBJ .or maybe those Hollingsworth dogs were on the same planet that buck beat jr on .