Frisco line

[ResidentKennel]

Years ago when I was introduced to bulldogs, a guy I was aquatinted with purchased a 2xw from someone who found himself on hard times. He was a son of Kelly's Mojo Rising. A big brindle male who was calm and alway's quiet. He had a great disposition about him. The new owners yard was't far from my friends yard, so they would often school dogs together. One day the owner come home to find Lil Mojo missing. None of his other dogs were touched so he thought someone stole him. Surely, if he got loose he would have came home to a blood bath. The neighbors haven't seen or heard any suspicious vehicles, so the thief must have walked through the woods. He came to my friends house and asked us if we heard his dogs or saw anything. We said know and began asking others and looking for the dog. My friends son told us he saw a big dog loose walking into the woods. Believe it or not, when we found him he was siting in a corner of the box that they used to school dogs in. He walked through two dog yards and didn't touch a single dog only to go and jump in the box. I haven't seen a Frisco dog since then that I have liked as much as I liked that one. My kennel partner and I have purchased dogs off of El Negro and Dynamite hoping to get another Lil Mojo but nothing has worked out so far.

[ResidentKennel]

Lil Mojo was 4 or 5 when he was purchased and this was around 99 or 2000

[GAMEWARDEN]

Kelly is a very good friend of mine as well as the guys from krunch. Impo the best of the mojo dogs come when you add Kelly's taz in the mix. Ch macguyver, ch Meister, ch Bentley, marley, satch(2:12 winner after an hr & 1/2 beating) etc etc all are descendants of taz. I also think when krunch bred hootens miss chinaman to mojo and chinaboy they produced some very important dogs. Obviously the mojo x little cow breeding produced gr ch Goldie who was a hell of a dog! There were a couple from those breedings that were 2hr dogs. Goldie was just to much of a monster to have to go that long. Why she was not bred to Meister or macguyver still has me shaking my head to this day.

[GAMEWARDEN]

Years ago when I was introduced to bulldogs, a guy I was aquatinted with purchased a 2xw from someone who found himself on hard times. He was a son of Kelly's Mojo Rising. A big brindle male who was calm and alway's quiet. He had a great disposition about him. The new owners yard was't far from my friends yard, so they would often school dogs together. One day the owner come home to find Lil Mojo missing. None of his other dogs were touched so he thought someone stole him. Surely, if he got loose he would have came home to a blood bath. The neighbors haven't seen or heard any suspicious vehicles, so the thief must have walked through the woods. He came to my friends house and asked us if we heard his dogs or saw anything. We said know and began asking others and looking for the dog. My friends son told us he saw a big dog loose walking into the woods. Believe it or not, when we found him he was siting in a corner of the box that they used to school dogs in. He walked through two dog yards and didn't touch a single dog only to go and jump in the box. I haven't seen a Frisco dog since then that I have liked as much as I liked that one. My kennel partner and I have purchased dogs off of El Negro and Dynamite hoping to get another Lil Mojo but nothing has worked out so far.

You got a good dog in little mojo. I loved that dog as a pup! He was a tall rangy pup but sounds like he filled out nicely.

[ChuckyDukes]

I owned 2 litter sisters to Lil Mojo. One became 2xw, 1xgl to a CH. One of the greatest displays of gamenees ever seen, wayyyy behind for nearly 2 hours, came back up top to earn the W. This over a big name in the game, in front of some of the biggest players in the games history.

[blood brothers]

Seen good hounds....no doubt they paper hung though....a bunch of redboy in them....met an european guy about 10 years ago that had a male of cottinghams redman bred to a double daughter of frisco....plus the look of the dogs changed and performance levels from atleast 12 years ago....if you are breeding a family of dogs they dont change all of a sudden without something being added....jack is right about the stuff from ed...they had a violent mouth but if they couldnt get in done in 30-45 they ran for the hills....addind your blood probably made them stick it out

[evolutionkennels]

Mike Kellys dogs absolutely not paper hung

[blood brothers]

Garner himself....i know some people who had the real dogs off frisco....never seen a mojo dog but heard nothing but good things on the line of hounds

[GAMEWARDEN]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=33718

This dog is absolutely bred this way! Alive and well at 11yrs old.

[ROCK-MACHINE]

This may not be a popular opinion, but I do have first-hand experience dealing with a few Frisco dogs, and I saw the Frisco dog himself personally on Garner's yard back in 1990.

With that said, I personally would have never based my yard on a shy dog like Frisco. Yes, I realize the dog has produced multiple Champions, but considering that he has thousands of offspring that really doesn't mean much. I have seen several painfully-shy Frisco dogs, but I also realize that there are outgoing Frisco dogs as well.

On the good end, if you get a good Frisco dog, you should have a high-ability dog with an excellent mouth and it will be at least game enough to win (while it's ahead). While I know there are game individuals of this bloodline, I don't believe any knowledgeable dogman would call this a high-percentage-game line of dogs. But if you have a good animal of this line, it should be an athletic (possibly devastating) animal with enough gameness to win. Yet even some of these will be shy dogs, though there are "normal" dogs of this line too.

On the bad end, if you get a bad Frisco dog, you well get a painfully-shy useless animal that is afraid of its own shadow. I was told directly by Ed Faron, Garner's friend at the time, that Frisco himself was so shy he couldn't even be rolled in front of a crowd and would freeze-up and not scratch if there was any noise. What I myself saw of the animal was a dog that was always on the wrong side of the chain (meaning, instead of coming up to you to be petted ... was hiding in fear of you on the other side of his chain spot).

It is my personal opinion that, no matter how devastating a dog like this might be ... if you allow him to be in a perfect world in his own chain space (where no one makes any noise) ... that out in the real world of open competition where scream and make noise at pitside the dog couldn't cut it (which is why he was given to Garner) ... and so I would not consider such an animal to be "what I want to make more of" ...

That is said with no bad motives, but it is my honest opinion.

Jack

This is a letter that was sent to Jack Kelly,editor of The Sporting Dog Journal in May - June 1997.The letter was sent by a guy called CHAINSAW,and he writes:

Dear Journal-

I've heard one story after another about Garner's FRISCO over the past several years.I have heard that he was a 2X winner before he was sold in North Carolina and even that the current owner took him back because he had been mistreated by his former owner.I will tell everyone the truth because I was the fellow that owned FRISCO for a year and a half and I am the guy who sent him there.

FRISCO started out in the Bay Area of California at a couple of different dogmens yards.He was moved around so often because he was extremely shy and not kept in good health.It was up in Oregon in May of 1988 where a bunch of us gathered for a bbq. After we were through we decided to take a look at FRISCO.He disappointed everyone.His owner at the time V.R wanted to put him down right after he quit,but I talked him into letting me take him home and work with him a little.My brother and I did get him to come out of his shell a little but never to the point where we would have bet a dime on him winning a match.Since FRISCO'S mother,CHINA GIRL had quit in 15 minutes,we were very skeptical about FRISCO to start with.Finally,one day we decided to try FRISCO again,against a scatter bred dog that was sent to us by a friend in California.This dog had never been touched before,but was very hot and had weighed about 5lbs smaller than FRISCO.He tore into FRISCO and had him singing in three minutes.We separated them and tried to scratch FRISCO and he wouldn't scratch.My brother took the other dog who was screaming to go back,and I turned FRISCO loose.He just stood there and made no attempt to look for the other dog.I called V.R and told him and said that I should have gotten rid of him 18 months ago.He told me that Tom wanted the dog and the next day I shipped him to North Carolina.I had never been paid for the shipping charges or the kennel.I was given a pup off of FRISCO in what I took to be compensation for the shipping charges.He quit in 6 minutes.

If anyone finds this hard to believe,there are a lot of people who can verify what I have said.I'm not looking to start a ragging war with anyone,just to end the rumor's that I hear everyday about FRISCO.

CHAINSAW.