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Thread: A.I. - freezing sperm - and DNA PROGRAMS

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    A.I. - freezing sperm - and DNA PROGRAMS

    What registries offer DNA program. If you have a stud that is only A.I. able or dead but has frozen sperm ,should he be DNA tested. And A question to you Jack,With BIG JOHN being so big were you worried about Screamer when she had his babies.If you don't mind could you go into that breeding and litter process please. Did she have them natural or C section and how many , pics would be awesome . Thanks and here is my future wacc-visegrip cross http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pu ... _id=203135

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    Re: A.I. - freezing sperm - and DNA PROGRAMS

    Quote Originally Posted by CULLENDOGS
    What registries offer DNA program. If you have a stud that is only A.I. able or dead but has frozen sperm ,should he be DNA tested. And A question to you Jack,With BIG JOHN being so big were you worried about Screamer when she had his babies.If you don't mind could you go into that breeding and litter process please. Did she have them natural or C section and how many , pics would be awesome . Thanks and here is my future wacc-visegrip cross http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pu ... _id=203135

    No, we did an AI with Screamer because Big John wouldn't breed naturally, and she had her pups just fine. It was a fresh semen breeding done right there on the spot when I brought Screamer over there.

    As far as freezing semen goes, you have to get a DNA profile on a stud nowadays, just to freeze his semen at all, if you want the pups to get registered. There is no registration body I know of that will accept a frozen semen breeding without one, unless maybe it's very old.

    Jack

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    Re: A.I. - freezing sperm - and DNA PROGRAMS

    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack
    Quote Originally Posted by CULLENDOGS
    What registries offer DNA program. If you have a stud that is only A.I. able or dead but has frozen sperm ,should he be DNA tested. And A question to you Jack,With BIG JOHN being so big were you worried about Screamer when she had his babies.If you don't mind could you go into that breeding and litter process please. Did she have them natural or C section and how many , pics would be awesome . Thanks and here is my future wacc-visegrip cross http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pu ... _id=203135

    No, we did an AI with Screamer because Big John wouldn't breed naturally, and she had her pups just fine. It was a fresh semen breeding done right there on the spot when I brought Screamer over there.

    As far as freezing semen goes, you have to get a DNA profile on a stud nowadays, just to freeze his semen at all, if you want the pups to get registered. There is no registration body I know of that will accept a frozen semen breeding without one, unless maybe it's very old.

    Jack
    Thanks for the feed back,was curious of how many pups screamer had and how many times did you guys A.I. her. My other question is do you think I should be concern about this breeding http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pu ... _id=203135 with ili cherry being 35 lb and sonny being 60lb and coming from a big dog family

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    Re: A.I. - freezing sperm - and DNA PROGRAMS

    Quote Originally Posted by CULLENDOGS
    Thanks for the feed back,was curious of how many pups screamer had and how many times did you guys A.I. her. My other question is do you think I should be concern about this breeding http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pu ... _id=203135 with ili cherry being 35 lb and sonny being 60lb and coming from a big dog family
    We bred twice, skipping one day inbetween, and I got 7 pups.

    And, while it is impossible for me to predict with certainty as to what will or won't happen in any delivery, I do not think Little Red Cherry will have any problems.

    Jack


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    Re: A.I. - freezing sperm - and DNA PROGRAMS

    THANKS. 8-) ANOTHER QUESTION IS HOW DO I FIND A SPERM BANK IN MY AREA.I'M REALLY WANTING TO FREEZE ROCKO BUT DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START

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    Re: A.I. - freezing sperm - and DNA PROGRAMS

    A little help please

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    Re: A.I. - freezing sperm - and DNA PROGRAMS

    Quote Originally Posted by CULLENDOGS
    THANKS. 8-) ANOTHER QUESTION IS HOW DO I FIND A SPERM BANK IN MY AREA.I'M REALLY WANTING TO FREEZE ROCKO BUT DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START
    What area are you in. I use a reproduction vet that all of the guys at my Schutzhund club use.

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    Re: A.I. - freezing sperm - and DNA PROGRAMS

    You can go to Synbiotics for a list of reproductive vets ... as well as Camelot Farms

    Also, if you live near a veterinary college, they do them too.

    Jack

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    Re: A.I. - freezing sperm - and DNA PROGRAMS

    Thank you very much

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    Re: A.I. - freezing sperm - and DNA PROGRAMS

    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack
    As far as freezing semen goes, you have to get a DNA profile on a stud nowadays, just to freeze his semen at all, if you want the pups to get registered. There is no registration body I know of that will accept a frozen semen breeding without one, unless maybe it's very old. Jack
    And here is what is so utterly ridiculous about all of this DNA and registration nonsense. About a year ago when I was trying to move a straw of our Homer III semen, several interested parties wanted to breed to him, but they also wanted the pups to be able to be registered ADBA. I swabbed him when we collected the semen, but never sent it in. I still have it after all these years. I spoke with Adam at ADBA at that time and he explained that the sample I had would be too degraded now to develop a DNA profile, but also told me that since Homer III was registered all we had to do was send a small sample of the Homer III semen in upon thawing and that would suffice for a profile. I said "Gee, that semen sample in theory could be from any old dog, how do you know it would really be Homer III's semen?" Adam's reply to me was "ultimately the truth of every dog's breeding lies in the integrity of the breeder".

    Therefore friends, of what value is ADBA registration anyhow if it all comes down to the breeder's honesty? Acquire stock from a breeder who does not hang papers, don't hang papers yourself, and all will be well. 8-) No need to get DNA samples, buy registration papers, or trust some other entity with sensitive information about you, your residence, and your dogs.

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