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Its dumb speculating which dog was better.

Yes it would be nice, as allot of IF's

Ultimately, I agree, there's no way to win a debate on who would prevail if any two dogs met.

However, it generates interesting discussion/observation, if the people involved can cite tangible reasons to back up their beliefs.

My thoughts are simply this: Very, very few dogs make it passed 3 fights.

The jump between 3 and 4xW is huge ... and the chasm between 4xW and 5xW creates more fallout still.

Most people stop at 5xW, IF they get a dog that far, and hang it up.

Going from 5x to 6x, and 6x to 7x, is almost unheard of, with the % fallout being greater still.

Therefore, to compare "the quality" a bitch who only won 4 (which is a relatively easy thing to do) ... to a bitch who won 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 matches ... the only bitch in history ever to be able to do this ... is just preposterous to me.

Tornado was a BEAST ... she was smart, game, tough as nails, could kill you in :12 ... or out-scratch you at 2:40 ... she NEVER got bit down ... not even close ... despite facing world class competition 10x in a row.

Tornado is the one who BIT everything down, 10x in a row.

A mere 4xW is ridiculously unproven compared to Tornado.

IMO, if you took a PRIME Tornado, say after her 3rd fight, I would bet on her to defeat any bitch who ever fought her weight.

As would most of the people who lost to her ...

Jack

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[ragedog10]

They never met. Ladystone lost after beat Havana Boys Blondie. Tornado vs Ladystone didn't happen forget the reason.

[CrazyRed]

They never met. Ladystone lost after beat Havana Boys Blondie. Tornado vs Ladystone didn't happen forget the reason.

Ladystone never lost, she was suppose to go into Tornado but the show never took place. members of the gang is still around

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I have corrected my mistake in her pedigree, and added 2 photos: Rastaman's Ch Ladystone (4xW)

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Thanks for the correction.

Here are Tornado's opponents, based on Ken Allen's article in the AGDTimes:

1. STP's Piggy (?xW)
2. D. Farve & JJ Hayward's ? ?xW
3. Bobby Hall's Sunshine (2xW)
4. Tant & Co.'s Black Cat (?xW)
5. Chicago Combine's ? ?xW
6. Rebel Kennels' Emma (?xW)
7, Tito & The Local Boys' ? ?xW
8. T. Garner & Raheem's ? ?xW
9. Rastaman & Boone's Sadie (?xW)
10. Shobinoe's ? ?xW

Does anyone have more detailed knowledge to fill in the blanks?

Jack

[CrazyRed]

This is what I gathered, I will check once I get home

1. STP's Piggy was a 2xw
3. Bobby Hall's Sunshine (2xW)
4. Tant & Co.'s Black Cat was 2xw
5. Chicago Combine's had a 1x from what I was just told
6. Rebel Kennels' Emma was 1x
7, Tito & The Local Boys' (1x from what I was just told by Danny)
8. T. Garner & Raheem's was a first time out, waiting on confirmation
9. Rastaman & Boone's Sadie was 2xw
10. Shobinoe's 0xw

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Ladystone did lose Rastaman gave a interview in the Sdj not long and talks about the loss. As for Tornado she won 10x's that is damn near impossible to do, I don't believe her owner was scared of any with her. I'll look a get the info on who Lady lost to.

7. Tito & the Local Boys' Blondie. She was either a 1xw or first time out. That deal was put together in order for the Local Boys to get either Robert T Sr or Sampson. I dont remember. Blondie was from Eli/Carver breeding.

Thanks to both of you.

[Officially Retired]

Thanks for the feedback.

This was posted on PedsOnline back in 2003: Ch Lady Stone (4xW, 1xL)

Here is a rendition on her: http://www.sporting-dog-news.com/ch-...ans-lady-stone.

It shows the 1xL also, but gives no mention of loss.

Jack

[CrazyRed]

Thanks for the feedback.

This was posted on PedsOnline back in 2003: Ch Lady Stone (4xW, 1xL)

Here is a rendition on her: http://www.sporting-dog-news.com/ch-...ans-lady-stone.

It shows the 1xL also, but gives no mention of loss.

Jack

Folks had confused LadyStone with Sadie because Boone was trying to get that setup but under belief that Ricky was part of A-team, he was told he had to beat Blondie first, who was also trying to dance with Tornado. Boone ended up doing so only to find out that Ricky was no partner of A-team. Boone & Rasta dog Sadie lost to Tornado on bet that Sadie wouldn't last 45mins, Sadie did make it 45 mins but lost the show as she was picked up after a game showing. She got sold to another dogman after losing to Tornado. Sadie was good dog but just not as strong and couldn't bite as hard as Tornado, she made best choice that day swapping it out instead of being slick.