the mayday dogs are still getting it done and the dogs he ducked are not.
the mayday dogs are still getting it done and the dogs he ducked are not.
People always do shit like that: "offer a match" ... with everything stacked in their favor ... and when the other camp flushes the idea, and does something different, X camp acts like "their dog" was ducked, rather than their bullshit terms.Originally Posted by AmberLamps
Jack
The trouble with any bloodline is, one person may make a breeding (based on "pedigree") that another person would never make (based on performance).
Repeated over time, even though both men have "X Bloodline," the first man will have a bunch of useless paper tigers ... while the second man will have true performance representatives of the line. When you have a bloodline that gets all over the place, like Mayday dogs, you are going to get this kind of a disparity in ability and results.
Then, on top of this, since most dogmen aren't all that bright, one group of dogmen will get together and see some dogs of "X Bloodline" rolled/matched ... bred by the first guy ... and the dogs will suck ... and they will actually believe that all dogs of "X Bloodline" are that shitty. Meanwhile, another group of dogmen will see dogs rolled/matched from the second guy's yard, of the same "X Bloodline," and these dogs will kick ass and look great. Those dogmen will then believe that all dogs of "X Bloodline" are great.
And then members of both groups will argue online that "X Dogs suck" ... and "X Dogs are great" ... and the funny thing is both groups are right ... based on their frames of reference and what they saw
Thus, in the end, there is no such thing as a true working bloodline, that's still competes, that either "always sucks" or is "always great" ...
In the end, we must look at each individual animal, and if we're going to buy pups/dogs of ANY bloodline, it will always fall back on the age-old saying, "Who bred them and WHY?"
Jack
Very well said...
@ wrknapbt
I.M. told me that V.A. ducked away when they wanted to go against Mayday, and that they made the offer more than once.
What's funny to me is ... all these dogs that Mayday supposedly "ducked" never amounted to flyshit as producers compared to what Mayday amounted to ... never had 2 sisters that made Champion either ... never were inbred back to their mothers (or mother's sister) to produce another Grand Champion (as Mayday produced Haunch), etc.
True quality is not just some "flash-in-the-pan" dog that won 5 ... true quality goes DEEP, and it goes WIDE, and Mayday's quality is absolutely proven ... not just as a dog and individual Grand Champion ... but also as coming from a quality litter (with 2 Champion sisters), as a quality producer of multiple Champions (even when inbred) ... so when you step back and see the whole picture ... Mayday's quality goes DEEPER and WIDER than any other individual dog of his weight, or his time. Period, bar none.
And that is pretty much all that needs to be said as far as "who-is-who" between Mayday and the wannabes that wish they were Mayday
Jack
Very true!!! Well said.What's funny to me is ... all these dogs that Mayday supposedly "ducked" never amounted to flyshit as producers compared to what Mayday amounted to ... never had 2 sisters that made Champion either ... never were inbred back to their mothers (or mother's sister) to produce another Grand Champion (as Mayday produced Haunch), etc.
True quality is not just some "flash-in-the-pan" dog that won 5 ... true quality goes DEEP, and it goes WIDE, and Mayday's quality is absolutely proven ... not just as a dog and individual Grand Champion ... but also as coming from a quality litter (with 2 Champion sisters), as a quality producer of multiple Champions (even when inbred) ... so when you step back and see the whole picture ... Mayday's quality goes DEEPER and WIDER than any other individual dog of his weight, or his time. Period, bar none.
And that is pretty much all that needs to be said as far as "who-is-who" between Mayday and the wannabes that wish they were Mayday
Jack
What's funny to me is ... all these dogs that Mayday supposedly "ducked" never amounted to flyshit as producers compared to what Mayday amounted to ... never had 2 sisters that made Champion either ... never were inbred back to their mothers (or mother's sister) to produce another Grand Champion (as Mayday produced Haunch), etc.
True quality is not just some "flash-in-the-pan" dog that won 5 ... true quality goes DEEP, and it goes WIDE, and Mayday's quality is absolutely proven ... not just as a dog and individual Grand Champion ... but also as coming from a quality litter (with 2 Champion sisters), as a quality producer of multiple Champions (even when inbred) ... so when you step back and see the whole picture ... Mayday's quality goes DEEPER and WIDER than any other individual dog of his weight, or his time. Period, bar none.
And that is pretty much all that needs to be said as far as "who-is-who" between Mayday and the wannabes that wish they were Mayday
Jack
Well that about sums it up!
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