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Thread: TOMBSTONE OR BOLIO STUD,WHICH WOULD U CHOOSE(EVOLUTION)

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    Idea TOMBSTONE OR BOLIO STUD,WHICH WOULD U CHOOSE(EVOLUTION)

    I OWN http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=9358 iM HAVING A HARD TIME DECIDIING WHICH MALE TO BREED HER TO. MY CHOICES ARE CRABB'S ROOSTER RED (ID#44833) & A LITTERMATE TO AZ'S LUCKY(ID#34412). BOTH MALES ARE TESTED BULLDOGS AND ARE WORTHY OF BEING BRED WITHOUT LOOKING AT THEIR PEDS. I WAS SET ON BREEDING HER TO THE LITTERMATE OF LUCKY BUT A GUY THAT RUNS TOMBSTONE DOGS ADVISED ME NOT TO ADD SO MUCH BOLIO & GAVE HIS REASONS. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE FAMILIAR WITH THESE LINES(EVOLUTION ESPECIALLY KAUSE I KNOW U RUN RBJBT DOGS. ANYONE WITH VALUBLE INPUT WILL BE HIGHLY APPRECIATED. THANKS BSK

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    I don't think you'll hear from Evo
    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Quarter Kennel View Post
    I don't think you'll hear from Evo
    Good luck
    This is correct.

    I told Evo, on 5 different private occasions, to please not link dogs to his commercial site ... unless his post is in the Classifieds, where ads belong.

    He then posted a win in the General section, with a photo linked to this database here ... like he was supposed to ... but then "switched" the link over to his commercial site a day later, thinking he was getting one over on me. He didn't and it cost him 1 month.

    Last week, once again, impervious to learning, he again posted a link to his commercial database on the Bloodlines board ... so he won't be here for awhile.

    Nothing personal, but my rules will be followed. I gave him a lot more chances than I would most people, but I am not going to have what I say ignored, by anyone.

    Jack

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    Oh ok, I didn't know. I'm going with Rooster Red though. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BSK View Post
    Oh ok, I didn't know. I'm going with Rooster Red though. Thanks.
    Curious as to why?

    I don't know anything about either dog, physically, but I like the pedigree of the first dog better.

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    PS: whoever told you "not to add too much Bolio" doesn't know anything about the line ... nor how to read a pedigree ... as none of the dogs you listed is even remotely "heavy Bolio" ...

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    He was my choice too Jack. But when my partner went picked him up yesterday he looked as if he hasn't been properly fed & we are putting him through a proper deworming regimen & etc. I was expecting him to be in excellent condition. The guy that own him actually went got him back from the guy that was keeping him for him & brought him here cause he saw his animal wasn't being properly cared for. He's out of town working all the time & didn't know. When he made it to us (on Christmas) his back bone was showing. We gave him Valbazen & ivomec. He also got Valbazen yesterday and she is scheduled to Be Bred today(the 27th). So Im skeptical about breeding her to him just to be cautious. He does'nt seem sick in anyway. He may have just not been properly fed. Any suggestions Jack?

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    You're right to question the dog if he's a little off ... nothing worse than breeding to a stud that has his semen compromised and not getting any pups.

    My suggestion would be to breed to the dog whose style, abilities, and genetic "stacking" are most likely to produce the athletes you're seeking.

    Unfortunately, I don't know enough about the dogs in your pedigrees to help much, except that Red Pirate was a good dog bred off some very prepotent stock, so I happen to be partial to that element of the pedigrees. The other dogs in there may be good also, but I don't know enough about the Crabb dogs in there, except what they go back to. A lotta things can happen in that many generations, good or bad, so I just don't know enough to be of much help, sorry.

    I do know that the Peppermint Patty blood behind Ch Red Pirate is the same blood that helped produce Gr Ch Zukill when bred to Poncho (12 total wins in Zukill's litter), so whoever said you can't keep that blood basically pure has his head you-know-where. Zukill was basically 15/16ths Crum/Hollingsworth/Patrick blood with 1/16th Chinaman, while Red Pirate was 100% Patrick Bolio/Tombstone blood.

    Jack

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    Thanks Jack. Rooster takes whatever he can get(shoulders,stiffles,legs,etc) he stopped one in 45 that had offed 2 already. The Cooper's male hit one in the stifle 4 months ago & broke the leg & that leg hasn't been used since. I'm told that the Crabb's dogs fight the face targeting the nose area But Rooster as I said is different in that aspect. I did want to concentrate on the Red Pirate Blood, but I wanted to breed to the Cooper dog while I have the chance. His owner is planning on hunting him, Rooster on the other hand will be around because he's lost 2 cutters.

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    Pedigree alone, I like the first one much better.
    I love how your bitch is bred.

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