Breeding young dogs

[MISTER]

I decided to start this thread as this convo was taking over another member's thread. I for one don't condone this practice however I know it's been done with success. If someone gonna breed a young gyp to an old male to preserve the blood, ok I understand but when it's made a common practice that's where it becomes a problem. These dogs aren't for just anyone who has the coin to purchase their next fad. It pains me to see this great breed sold for monetary gain. Each breeding we make should be to improve the breed so how do a person know what they're improving on if the individuals aren't even fully developed yet?

PS. Please be respectful, I know this is a highly debatable topic and folks aren't gonna see eye to eye

[brokeback]

I'm with you, MISTER, maybe if a certain situation called for it but I surely wouldn't make a habit of it. And every single dog would stay with me. None leaving the yard.

[ragedog10]

Great job for starting this over here.

There was a thread that was shut down about what makes a stud dog a stud. Got pretty heated, I thought it made for good convo!

I dont like breeding two puppies (anything under a year) For the simple fact that we have a very well bred male that could fetch top $ if we open him up for stud! Now this well bred male is the work of a great kennel who used the practice of breeding two young dogs because they wanted to a female to bred back to the great,great grandsire. Now the problem is these pups off the two young dogs are freaking four years old and act like freaking puppies still! Is this do to the fact that they were off two puppies? I dont know cant say for sure! Wat i do know is he was a gift,hes well bred and acts like a pup at four going on five!

This i will say I see no problem was a young gyp taking to a older PROVEN STUD! And by proven stud i mean a stud that have thrown wat he himself and his line are know to be!
How can a 11month old pup be at stud when he himself is not fully filled out! Most pups at that age has that funny look to them! Lol
Now i would like to see some dogs that came off young dogs and worked and not just one in the breeding but were the breed produced muti winners that they themself ptoduced also!
Thanks,

[MISTER]

Great job for starting this over here.

There was a thread that was shut down about what makes a stud dog a stud. Got pretty heated, I thought it made for good convo!

I dont like breeding two puppies (anything under a year) For the simple fact that we have a very well bred male that could fetch top $ if we open him up for stud! Now this well bred male is the work of a great kennel who used the practice of breeding two young dogs because they wanted to a female to bred back to the great,great grandsire. Now the problem is these pups off the two young dogs are freaking four years old and act like freaking puppies still! Is this do to the fact that they were off two puppies? I dont know cant say for sure! Wat i do know is he was a gift,hes well bred and acts like a pup at four going on five!

This i will say I see no problem was a young gyp taking to a older PROVEN STUD! And by proven stud i mean a stud that have thrown wat he himself and his line are know to be!
How can a 11month old pup be at stud when he himself is not fully filled out! Most pups at that age has that funny look to them! Lol
Now i would like to see some dogs that came off young dogs and worked and not just one in the breeding but were the breed produced muti winners that they themself ptoduced also!
Thanks,

Breeding young dogs has nothing to do with them acting like puppies at 4yrs of age lol. I can't breed 2 young dogs together bc I wanna know what the individuals will bring to the table, folks can get away with that for only so long no matter how much they know the line they're breeding. Also how can a person tell what an animal gonna be at a year old? I have a couple youngsters now that I think a lot of especially the female who will be 2yrs old in May, she's had a couple heat cycles and the thought hasn't crossed my mind to breed her(yes I know her ped from top top to bottom especially the bottom) bc there's a few more things I wish to see

[ragedog10]

Breeding young dogs has nothing to do with them acting like puppies at 4yrs of age lol. I can't breed 2 young dogs together bc I wanna know what the individuals will bring to the table, folks can get away with that for only so long no matter how much they know the line they're breeding. Also how can a person tell what an animal gonna be at a year old? I have a couple youngsters now that I think a lot of especially the female who will be 2yrs old in May, she's had a couple heat cycles and the thought hasn't crossed my mind to breed her(yes I know her ped from top top to bottom especially the bottom) bc there's a few more things I wish to see

I would agree with you that sticking to young dogs has nothing to do with a dog still acting like a pup(N.O) b,u,t when the whole litter is "cold" then all things must be considered no?

[Pit Bull Committed]

I'm also not a fan of breeding young dogs. This is just me. I don't care what other ppl do with their dogs. I bought some dogs from some highly reputable breeders/kennels whatever you want to call it... and none met my expectations. I realized if I want the dogs I like I got to breed my own dogs or put my bitch under a stud I like. Nuff said!

[ragedog10]

And that was a great point made on the other thread!

[EGK]

I dont agree with it and can touch on what a few have said. When folks don't know the sacrifices of being a dog man and not in it for the hustle they don't understand the cause and effect of certain decisions. They say it's not your business yet when the news breaks everybody gets shook in an area no matter if they do are don't. Why over populate and hustle our dogs when we see the trouble the breed is in. Folks say low life this and that yet they take the money from anybody. Breeding young dogs with intent to sell is a hustle. Keeping them is taking a chance. Making that choice is one thing. I know a man who has a ROM bitch untouched. He sales dogs time to time but all her ROM pts came from his hard work and foresight. I don't knock selling dogs. Just put in the work and understand the sacrifice. Value what it means to be a dogman with some standard and integrity. Too many dogmen are half ass gamblers, peddlers, and in it for a buck. Jmo

[EGK]

I'm also not a fan of breeding young dogs. This is just me. I don't care what other ppl do with their dogs. I bought some dogs from some highly reputable breeders/kennels whatever you want to call it... and none met my expectations. I realized if I want the dogs I like I got to breed my own dogs or put my bitch under a stud I like. Nuff said!

Truth!!!!

[Black Hand]

I'd breed to that son of red pirate before I would breed to half the other stuff that is up for stud.