When was the last time you've heard of a brindle champion?
When was the last time you've heard of a brindle champion?
they make champion all the time, what's your point
Some breeders believe in "color traits."
If I am not mistaken, longtime breeder Bert Sorrells once said that all bulldog families known for gameness are either red or buckskin, while all families known for mouth are black.
While we can all think of "exceptions" to any rule, in general there seems to be some truth behind the association of traits with color.
It is a matter of genetic fact that black nose is a dominant trait, while red nose is recessive, and most people believe gameness to be a recessive trait
Hollingsworth, for example, would never breed to a black dog, because of his belief in the above.
Jack
We got some red dogs down here that can really really bite. Lots of game dogs from that same line. However, like Jack said, exceptions to everything.
Tons of Brindle winners.
While some of this stuff is very debatable and you can back or dismiss a ton of it with examples, I believe there are certain things associated with certain colors of certain lines. I use to never think like this, but over the long haul, as Jack has mentioned many times, if you have a line you "know", then you can almost pick the good ones by color, certain types of builds, etc. before they ever do a single thing.
A friend of mine from overseas asked me the same question. I thought i would ask the same question here to get some feedback for a response to my friend.Originally Posted by Nut
While some of this stuff is very debatable and you can back or dismiss a ton of it with examples, I believe there are certain things associated with certain colors of certain lines. I use to never think like this, but over the long haul, as Jack has mentioned many times, if you have a line you "know", then you can almost pick the good ones by color, certain types of builds, etc. before they ever do a single thing.
So true!
And its funny Bert S said this because he had a brindle named Goober who was down from Red Jerry .Goober went on and produced Preacher who produced Joe Testament and Joe produced Uncle Bud.I believe he said it though Jack but he sure bred to a brindle named Goober and this is part of the family behind Uncle Bud..
I don't think Bert mentioned brindle dogs, though.
Honestly, the prejudice for color exists in dogs too.
And, just like people, there are a million "exceptions" to every rule ... and yet there are also certain tendencies as well.
I fell in love with the red/rednose Hollingsworth dogs ... yet my best producing dog, ever, was the buckskin/blacknose Poncho (who I based my entire line on).
When I got the chocolate Ouch, I didn't really like the seal color and I also didn't trust the bottom side of his pedigree (the Mexican Pete's 410).
When the seal Silverback was first born, and as he grew up, I never really used him much as a stud ... for quite awhile.
Silverback was built different from my main dogs, he fought different from my main dogs, and even though he was "highly talented," I didn't trust his stamina like I did my other studs at the time (U-Nhan-Rha / Icon).
Ultimately, however, I wound up selling the fabulous Icon and U-Nhan-Rha, and based the tail-end of my dog breeding career linebreeding on Silverback, exclusively.
I still believe in the "general rules" ... and I still have my biases ... but what's funny now is that, originally I preferred rednose dogs ... then buckskin dogs "that looked like Poncho" ... but now I am biased towards my dogs that look like Silverback
Ultimately, you should pick the individuals who look/act like THE DOG THEY'RE LINEBRED ON ... as most likely those are the ones who got his/her key traits ... although not always
The moral of the story is FOLLOW THE ABILITIES/GAMENESS you cherish first, and let color fall where it may
Jack
No , I was just pointing out he did breed to one.Bert had his own way of thinking for sure.He also didn't believe in inbreeding and said that was for a lazy man who didnt want to look for the right stud dog lol.To each his own.
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