Real experience with RF1 canine nutrition

[BLADE]

I'd like to get feedback from folks that have real experience conditioning a Bulldog on RF1. I know that each dog is an individual and may respond differently to different supplements but I've been considering giving RF1 a go at some point and would like some feedback on your experiences using it. I've read where some say that you can't use the recommended dosage because a dog will run hot from the amount of creatine that will be consumed, others say to up the amount of water then what is recommended on the lable to get better results. Now with all that being said the source of that information didn't come from this site. I tend to believe that even though this site has less activity, the knowledge shared here is much more rewarding. Thanks in advance.

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I reccomend k-9 super fuel personally with a well balanced raw diet.
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I reccomend k-9 super fuel personally with a well balanced raw diet.
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[bulldoghistorian]

I reccomend k-9 super fuel personally with a well balanced raw diet.
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why would you increase fat and protein on a raw diet ?
one could just add fat chicken and it would be the same
if i look at the ingredients it contains nothing that wouldnt be added with a simple multi vitamin pil if you already feed raw

[FrostyPaws]

I've worked and fed dogs on nothing but RF-1, Super Fuel, Peak Performance 2, etc over the years. I can tell you it never made any dog I worked on it, or the others, run hot at any point, and they were fed absolutely nothing BUT that along with water and some fiber to help form a stool.

While it takes quite a bit to feed a dog nothing but the powder, it can be done as a meal replacement. Garner's Ch.Dexter was worked on nothing but RF-1 for his 1st show. Can-Am Boys Ch. Becky ROM was worked on Peak Performance 2, not to mention another champion dog I had, along with other winners, fed nothing but Super Fuel at the time just to see if it compared favorably to the rest.

If feeding a raw diet, you don't really need any supplements, at least nothing like RF-1, etc, as a balanced raw diet, much like ours, is one that is balanced over time not every day.

[BLADE]

I appreciate all the feedback so it seems that RF1 wouldn't really be necessary when feeding Raw. I get that, so let's look at feeding RF1 with a kibble like Victor 24/20 blend. Frosty you seem to have a good bit of experience with feeding RF1, so could you elaborate some on how to feed it with kibble? Would you feed it in the recommended amount? Also let's talk about moisture, would you feed it dry as a topping with kibble or add the recommended water amount when feeding wet? Heck one comment I read on another site a fella swore by adding 1 ounce of water per Lb of body weight? Seems a little excessive to me but I'm the guy asking questions! Lol I figured I would feed it dry over the above mentioned kibble and let the dog consume what water he felt he needed. If later on the dog starts drying out as he pulls away from his water some could be added? Just some thoughts I've considered.

[S_B]

Blade I definitely would not recommend feeding the powder dry! Imaging adding any powdery substance to something you eat and what would happen, you'd choke!

Never used RF-1 personally but I have used Peak Performance, Vertex and Metabolol. Water is important!

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Blade I definitely would not recommend feeding the powder dry! Imaging adding any powdery substance to something you eat and what would happen, you'd choke!

Never used RF-1 personally but I have used Peak Performance, Vertex and Metabolol. Water is important!

S_B

I see your point S_B. The reasoning behind my question about feeding it dry came from this theory. I work my dog, between the time I put him back on his chain after a workout and feeding him he's likely to load up on water. Now if I add more water to his feed to wet the RF1 is that gonna be to much moisture as opposed to feeding his kibble and RF1 dry sense he's already taken water after work, and allowing him to govern wether or not he needs more.

[S_B]

I see your point S_B. The reasoning behind my question about feeding it dry came from this theory. I work my dog, between the time I put him back on his chain after a workout and feeding him he's likely to load up on water. Now if I add more water to his feed to wet the RF1 is that gonna be to much moisture as opposed to feeding his kibble and RF1 dry sense he's already taken water after work, and allowing him to govern wether or not he needs more.

I never allow a dog to load up on water after a workout. I will actually walk until cooled naturally then feed with the amount of water on it I want them to take in. Then I will allow free water after that point.

That would solve your issue.

S_B

[BLADE]

Thanks S_B, that is a good idea.