Just for descussion purposes if u have a female thats only used for breeding , how yound is too young to bred?
Just for descussion purposes if u have a female thats only used for breeding , how yound is too young to bred?
under 2 years old is too young to me, of course that's just my personal preference.
Factually-speaking, "too young to breed" can only mean one thing: she hasn't matured enough to come into her first heat yet.
The rest is just opinion and personal preference.
Jack
PS: I have bred many outstanding bulldogs (Champions, producers of Champions, etc.) using first-heat bitches. Gr CH Zukill came out of Zsa Zsa's first heat at 11 months. I believe Waccamaw's Ch Big John came out of Sabre's first heat as well. Eli Jr./Bullyson came out of a 10-month old Spook. Ch Mr. Serious ROM came out of LuLu's first heat. Gr Ch Awesome Beast ROM came out of a first-heat gyp bred by a woman who never rolled a dog before.
Conclusion: Breeding young bitches can produce every bit as good, or better, dogs as breeding "hard-checked" or even Champion-level bitches ... IF you have a truly well-bred bitch ... and IF you know enough about the dogs in the genetic background to breed them correctly. If you don't, then you shouldn't breed any gyp at all until you know enough about what's behind your gyp. (PS: Best practice, though, is to evaluate your bitches before you breed them, just to see if they have the traits you desire. You can only take shortcuts for so long before they'll catch up to you!)
Biologically speaking they are old enough when they come into heat. But they are too young to test at that point.
Don't wait to long. Test them as soon as they are ready.
It has been my experience with breeding animals of different breeds including APBTs that animals generally produce their best offspring at a younger age. Of course there are always exceptions the rules.
A dog will produce what it's gonna produce no matter their age or accomplishments. I have a small yard with very limited space. Therefore I like to fully check my dogs before i consider breeding them.
This would be a whole interesting topic unto itself, whether there is any truth to the matter of bitches producing their best offspring when young.Originally Posted by STONEWALL
I know for a fact that Silverback is the most talented son ever out of Missy ... and she gave him to me when she was 10 years old ... but whether he was the "exception" to the rule or not (or whether the "rule" is not factually-sound) I just don't know.
Jack
Interesting topic, and interesting statement by Stonewall.
I will try and let you all know the thoughts in general over here, the KC has certain rules to get a registered pedigree to a dog. The organisations name is FCI. Under them i believe each country is entitled to make rules which fall under theirs. If you would be so kind to address the next points.
1. Here we always think that a bitch is not mature enough until a year or two. Altough it is known that the younger the animal is the better she'll probably recover from the wear of giving birth and taking care of a litter, the general thought is based on the dam being able to support the litter as well as being mentally full grown. Or grown enough to evaluate. This said, it's like here we judge a dog on the behaviour and soundness around a year or two. It says in the rules no younger than 16 months to get a registered pedigree.
2. No older than 8 years old to do a litter with registry. Meaning the day the gyp turns 8 it is not allowed to breed her to get the litter registered.
3. No first breeding after the bitch turned 6...?
I now learn/read a whole lot on bitches being bred earlier than 2 yo. and after the age of 8. To me it makes no sense not breeding a bitch you can get a good litter from after she turned 8. Except for if she already got bred to time and time again. What is the max number of times to breed a bitch ?
Sorry if i went off topic a bit.
I don't see why dogs are labeled "brood female" when they aren't even matured enough to show what they got. Is it because all that's cared about is breeding the pedigree or do i have a wrong interpretation of the word "brood female"?
Bump up for 2020...
Great topic...It all depends on the female. I typically like to wait three heat cycles before breeding any bitch. Only because some bitches might only have two cycles in the span of eighteen month's. This also allow's me time to figure out what trait's she brings to the table. JMO
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