This is my second time typing this. Here we go again.
I have a friend. Surprise. Some people other than my dogs like me. This friend and I argue or discuss probably the oldest arguments in bulldogs. I say family breeding. He says outcross. I say game red dogs.He says black dogs mouth mouth. I say red dog. He says black dog. It goes over and over like this until the world proves that I am right. There is no way under the sun I could ever be wrong about anything. It's like the Pope and God. I am infallible. Those are attempts at jokes.
I like studying pedigrees. I used to be good a calculus and stuff in school so I like formulas. I like playing football so I like athletics. There is not more athletic dog than a APBT. If you don't have tons of money or metaphorical knee pads I guess you have to cook your own pies. So, I study pedigrees.
I was looking at Ferguson's centipede. He is in the pedigree of one of my females. I look the breedings they made with these dogs. And try to see why they did what. Hopefully it will help me get what i need to make my all time dog.
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=1738 Looks like my clo dog. Good back end the way he's standing with those straight for legs. There is something truly beautiful about looking at a well built gamedog.
We start to look thorough the offspring and you see a double bred son that won 8.
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=5049
Trace dog down more and we see they inbred tight of centipede. I can hear my dad now. INBREED! Yes inbreed. Dogs have a lot more genes than we do and nature has built in ways to with propagating founder genes and purging genes in nature. I strong wolf will survive to breed his daughters after taking over a pack. I digress. Maybe ill write on things old timers did and the science behind them.
They inbred further on centipede. They bred this red okie dog who was a combination triple cross and double cross on centipede.
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=3118
We skip down the line to his granddaughter who is none other than carvers black widows mother.
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum....php?dog_id=43
Basically without centipede and the lightner dogs in black widows mother you couldn't have had carvers black widow. To my friend. Red dogs made black dogs.
From my recent experience with red boy dogs. If you know what you're looking for you can have a 1/4 redboy in a dog and they scream and work like redboy dogs. Ferguson's centipede made black widow. Without black widow pretty much wipe out most good lines of bulldogs. No chinaman etc.
More of old guys and tight breeding.
When i was in college i remember someone bought a dog for 10k dollars. 10k was a lot of money back then probably like 20 now. You could get gas for 89 cents a gallon. I used to keep computer printouts of this dog on my notebooks for school. I had to customize everything i had. Buy a trapper keeper with a clear cover. Go print BBC Ch bullet, PawPaw and Bullet. I said bullet twice. I liked how that dog looked. He perfect to me.
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=23387
Beautifully bred dog. Let's look at his grandad. His dad made rom and threw what was the longest gamest female. Here's Hughes Dusty. No titles. What you mean no titles. You can't breed a dog without a tittle they say. He not a champion. I can tell you this. He's super tight bred on yellow john. Red boys hardest biting son. Yellow John was super tight bred on redboy.
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=2891
Triple cross yellow john stud. Double cross female with an out. All that to make this dog.
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=2866
There's something about the color of those dogs. It's buckskin but it's different.
What's the point of all this. I like pedigree research. I like learning ways to make what i like. I don't think everything in the past was great. Or everything now is great. Hell my dad hates inbreeding. I used it as a tool. He also asked me to buy him a lawn mower. Why does he need a lawn mower? He listened to all these clean energy fools and bought an electric mower. The battery is too weak to cut the grass and won't hold a charge. Last time i went over there i could barely make it to the back yard to see my stoic dog. I build of people who were successful in the past. And combine that with new things. I'm not abandoning linebreeding and family breeding for the "new thing" hybrid vigor that is sweeping through the dog and cattle industry. You can find healthy vigorous individuals and breed around them. Add blood as you need to and monitor for diseases. The life of a game dog has never been easy. If they survive and thrive they are vigorous specimens.
Hopefully no owners of black dogs were offended. If they were. So what.
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